Notes for Caroline RIDDLE


Per Jimmie Riddle, Tyler, Texas
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Notes for Charles RIDDLE


Not sure if Charles was Caty's child or another Choctaw womans.
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Notes for Elizabeth "Eliza" Candida RIDDLE


Some sources have her listed as being married to James Horton son of Jeffe rson
Horton and Catherine Ikerd. He was a cousin to John.
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Notes for George Washington RIDDLE


[Jennifer.FTW]

1885 Gaines
529. Riddle, George W., 42, M/I, Farmer, 100 acres

530. Riddle, Elveriue, 31, F/W, ,

531. Riddle, Andrew J., 15, M/I, ,

532. Riddle, Virginia E., 16, F/I, ,

533. Riddle, Susan F., 13, F/I, ,

534. Riddle, George E., 7, M/I, ,

535. Riddle, Richard R., 6, M/I, ,

536. Riddle, John W, 2, M/I, ,

537. Riddle, Edmund K., 8 mo, M/I, ,
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Notes for John RIDDLE


Attended Choctaw Academy in Blue Springs, Scott County, Kentucky in 1825
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Notes for Sarah Ann RIDDLE


Was married also to a Jones, forname unknown.
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Notes for Susan RIDDLE


[Mieirs.ftw]

1/2 breed choctaw woman, per testimonies in application files of her grand
children. Maiden surname unknown. Rumored to be a Riddle and connect ed to or
a part of the Choctaws of Smith and Rusk Counties in east Texa s. Possible
daughter of George Riddle rather than William.

[Jennifer.FTW]
See Also: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2640
145&id=I17 89
An old lady by the name of Hall who ran a hotel at Skullyville, and wh o, by
the way, was my brother's mother-in-law, was one of the examine rs of the
quilting.

Footnote:
This was Mrs. Susan Hall, Choctaw wife of William Hall whose grave is se en as
one of the earliest burials in the old Skullyville cemetery. Among t heir
children were Margaret, Jane, and Joseph R., Margaret married Sarah A nn
Harlan's brother, William Moncrief who erected the first building at Fo rt
Arbuckle (1852). Jane Hall was the second wife of David Folsom, not ed as the
first elected Choctaw chief under the Choctaw constitution of 18 26. REF: THE
CHRONICLES OF OKLAHOMA, Vol.XXXIX, page 304 [play.FTW]

Mrs. Hall, an excellent half-breed Indian woman, who was in good circumsta
nces and the owner of a number of colored people, kindly consented to rece ive
Hannah into a vacant cabin, take care of her as long as she lived. H er own
servants could nurse the feeble old slave while she lived. Mr s. H. did this
cheerfully, from a conviction of duty, and without anycompe nsation whatever.
Hannah was still living when we left that country, and q uite comfortable.
REF: LIFE AMONG THE CHOCTAWS, Chap. XVI, page 117.

Our trail diverged to the east; and after pursuing its windings through t he
forest and brushwood for an hour, we came to the residence of Colonel T om
Wall, a Choctaw half-breed. He was the son-in-law of Mrs. H., who was o ne of
our party. Here our Indian friends halted for the night. Mrs. S., Mr s. B.,
and myself went on an hour's travel further and received accommodat ions at
the residence of a kind family, a portion of whom were membe rs of the
Methodist Episcopal Church.
REF: LIFE AMONG THE CHOCTAWS, page 140.

Mrs. H., a Choctaw woman, has just sent a servant to ask if we would be wi
lling to attend a wedding at her house; her youngest daughter was to be un
ited in wedlock to a fine young Indian, who was serving as a clerk in a dr
y-good store at the Agency. As we expressed our pleasure at being her gues ts
on the eventful occasion, Mrs. H. sent us horses and saddles, and a ser vant
to conduct us to her residence.
We found a multitude of people assembled to witness the ceremonies. Mrs.H. 's
dwelling consisted of two square rooms, built of logs and standing sepa rate,
leaving a space of ten or twelve feet between them, which serv ed as a hall or
court. There were porches in front and rear of the buildin gs.

The invited guests occupied the hall and porches, while the lower cla ss of
native, who were prompted by curiosity to be present, were scatter ed about
the yards, seated upon the ground, and smoking their pipes in sil ence; they
had never witnessed the marriage ceremonies solemnized by a min ister.

At nine o'clock, the bridal party were marshalled upon the front porch; fr
iends held lighted candles, the natives swarmed about the yard, and the n, in
due form, according to the Discipline of the Methodist Episcopal Chu rch, the
nuptials were celebrated. It was probably the first instance in w hich a
minister had officiated on such an occasion within the limits of t he
Moshulatubbe district.
The spectators thought the "talk" was altogether too brief; they had confi
dently anticipated a sermon, or "big talk", at the wedding. Thinking th at
other ceremonies would be observed, at the proper time, before the gues ts
should disperse, they relighted their pipes and again seated themselv es upon
the ground, and patiently waited to see what should transpire. Aft er the
supper had been served, Mrs. H. gave them the remnants of the feast .

The wedding supper was prepared in good taste, very far surpassing ma ny to
which we have sat down among white people. As the evening was far ad vanced
when the guests dispersed, and we were cordially invited to rema in till
morning, we consented to do so, and were very comfortably entertai ned. It was
the first night Mrs. B. ever spent under the roof of an India n. In the
morning we ate breakfast and worshipped with the family, after w hich Mrs. H.
ordered her horses and sent us back to Fort Coffee, escort ed by her faithful
boy, Caesar.
Marriage ceremonies were strictly observed by the Choctaws. Ministers, t he
agent, chief, interpreter, and light-horsemen were legally authoriz ed to
solemnize the rites of matrimony. I am not aware that any heathen ma rriage
ceremonies were observed by any of the tribe. They seldom made feas ts or
engaged in dancing on those interesting and eventful occasions.
Note: Major Armstrong was the Superintendent of Indian Affairs there) RE F:
LIFE AMONG THE CHOCTAWS, page 149, 150 and 151
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Notes for Thomas William RIDDLE


Source: Thomas W. Riddle, Smith County Rootsweb
http://www.rootsweb.com/~txsmith/Pioneers/riddle.html
Thomas W. Riddle, a farmer, was born 1825 in Tennessee, probably in Old Ha
rdin County, now McNairy County. He was the son of Charles Riddle and Nan cy
Harmon. He died in Arp, Texas, and is buried in the Mason Cemetery ( no
marker), Smith County. He married Mary Ann Green of North Carolina abo ut 1845
they were then in Tishomingo County, Mississippi.

Between 1848 and 1850 Thomas moved his family by caravan to Texas, traveli ng
with other members of his wife's family. The Greens came from Englan d, where
the Green family originated. Thomas settled between Grand Sali ne and Canton,
Texas, where the Sabine Creek ran into the Saline Rive r. He homesteaded
enough land to give each of his children 75 acres, keepi ng 75 for himself.

According to family history, James B. Riddle, one of Thomas' sons, was abo ut
seven weeks old when the trip to Texas began. At one point on the tr ip the
family thought he was dead and a colporter (traveling minister) ju st happened
to be going by. He stopped and worked with the baby but he w as finally given
up as dead. However as the Minister sat up with the ba by that night, he
detected life and again worked with the baby, traveli ng all the way to Texas
caring for him. Young James lived to be a grown m an and later had a family of
his own. One of his descendents, Mrs. Lola ( E. 0.) Parker, lives in Tyler.
(1978)

Thomas Riddle's granddaughter, Pauline Riddle, remembers his little tru nk
that he kept under his bed. In it he kept the best apples that she h ad ever
eaten. She also remembers going fishing with him, and the first fi sh caught
was cooked over a little fire. With it they had a piece of corn& SHY;bread
which he carried in his hip pocket. He would walk from their ho me to his old
home for water in the well in his yard to make coffee. Th is water tasted
strongly of sulphur and he was sure it made the best coff ee in the world.

Contributed by Phil Hill, Rt. 7, Box 743, Tyler, TX 75707 - Published in t he
East Texas Family Records, Volume II, Number 1, Spring 1978.
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Notes for William RIDDLE


[Jennifer.FTW]
Also See: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2640
145&id=I17 80; WPA and Choctaw enrollee interviews (www.choctawnation.co m,
www.genealogy4all.com, oklahoma genweb site), 1885 census Choctaw Nati on
www.choctaw-web.com, 1860 Slave index US census, Dawes card informati on
www.accessgenealogy.com/native.html; The Choctaw Riddle's http://jennif
erhsrn2.homestead.com/riddle.html

Some researchers list the parents as William Riddle and Caty

Part of a will, to the grandchildren of the father of these siblings stat es
dated 7/21/1875

Skullyville, C.N.

The Choctaw Nation
To Tandy Walker, heir and legal representative of Mary Walker, born Riddl e,
dec. - Mary Blackburn
Heirs of Susan Hall, born Riddle, viz. Catherine Wall, Margaret Moncrie f, and
heirs of Sarah Trahern, viz- Robert, Lysander, James, Joseph, Willi am,
Lavina, and Catherine. Heirs of Jinsy Folsom.
Heirs of Joseph Riddle, viz. Moses Riddle, Jesse Riddle, and Betsy Wall
Heirs of John Riddle, Jr. viz. George, William, Douglas, Martha Edmonds, S
arah Cooper, and heirs of Marguerite Johnson-grandchildren and heirs of Jo hn
Riddle (Jr. or Sr.)

Clearly, there may be an additional page, but all the individuals listed a re
grandchildren or the great grandchildren of the father of these sibling s,
Mary Riddle Walker
Susan Riddle Hall
Joseph Riddle
John Riddle, Jr.

If there is more to the document, I do not know, as it was sent to me by a
nother researcher. It would suggest that only these four had descendants l
iving in 1875, and that only those named were living.

Additional Note: He may have been polygamous, thus explaining why some chi
ldren are listed in one document and others later. Thus Caty may have be en
one wife, while another unknown Choctaw woman may have been the secon d. This
was quite acceptable under Choctaw customs of the period. Whi le no proof of
this exists, it is only theory, I have in the past listed a ll children
mentioned by various correspondence under Caty. JCT 9/4/03

The First Choctaw Trading House was located at a place the Spanish nam ed in
honor of of the Spanish Governor of W. Florida, Estevan Miro. The tr ading
house was moved in the year 1815 inside the Choctaw Nation confine s, near a
place called James Springs, which had belonged to Adam James. Ac cording to
the records, Mr. Adam James was paid the sum of $120.00 for t he land.
DEBTS DUE THE UNITED STATES FROM THE CHOCTAW TRADING HOUSE
OCTOBER 1, 1822
Below you find the names, and the "credit rating" of the persons name ment
ioned who owed money at The Choctaw Trading House.

NAME            AMNT OWED           CREDIT RATING

ADAM JAMES          597.00                   NOT GOOD
CHOCTAW AGENCY 513.35                   GOOD

ATTOBAH                       50.68                    GOOD

SAMUEL MCGEE             7.25                DOUBTFUL
GEN'L HUMMINGBIRD        78.49                    DOUBTFUL
JOSEPH C. PITCHLYNN      568.63                   GOOD
ISAAC JAMES              30.66                    GOOD
CAPT. TOCKLEY            20.43                    GOOD
RED BIRD            102.50                   DOUBTFUL
YOUNG KING               43.41                    DEAD
JOHN HALL           40.86                    NOT KNOWN
GEORGE JAMES             139.66                   DOUBTFUL
CHARLES JUZANG           413.00                   GOOD
WILLIAM STARNS           8.13                GOOD
ROBERT SORRELS           111.54                   DEAD

SAMUEL JONES             23.28                    GOOD

FISH                          22.48                    NOT GOOD
JOHN FORBES              40.54                    NOT GOOD
LOO OCHA            26.25                    NOT GOOD

WILLIAM RIDDLE           252.15                   DOUBTFUL

JAMES PITCHLYNN               70.25                    DOUBTFUL
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Notes for William RIDDLE


Attended the Choctaw Academy in Blue Springs, Scott County, Kentucky in 1825
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